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we live in a reality of phantoms and

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and existence of cryptids in the

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so tonight i welcome lydia and celine to

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our show now ann was born with the

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from ghosts shadow entities sasquatch

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anne is a reekie master intuitive tarot

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now ann is also the owner of kpnl radio

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up with psychic abilities

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and seeing things you thought only

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existed in your nightmares

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podcasts and continues to offer her

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knowledge through various media's medium

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so ann good to have you with me

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good to be here thank you so much i'm

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really excited

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well i'm glad you are

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good to talk to you

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i haven't talked to you in oh well

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i haven't talked to you since i worked

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and that's been about four years ago so

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um but anyway let's start off with uh

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how did you get involved with the

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paranormal or let's put it this way

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gosh well i was definitely born into it

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uh one of my earliest memories

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beautiful picture window that overlooked

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this farm field and it was it was

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morning so you can see the sunrise and

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the beautiful golds and yellows and and

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everything and

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as i looked out i remember thinking and

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old uh i remember thinking

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i came back

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crib and i saw shadow entities down the

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became more and more so i actually don't

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in my life where i didn't have stuff

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why i understand that

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why things were somewhat different for

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me as growing up and you know as time

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went on i finally realized that there

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i feel very lucky i mean i feel bad for

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my friends but i feel very lucky because

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i would have thought as i was growing

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with having everything happen that has

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all my friends that have been with me

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this stuff is real

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one of the biggest ones when i was a

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child was i had went over to my friend's

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house we were about 14 at the time and i

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girl so of course they had to be

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separated the little boy slept upstairs

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little girl slept downstairs we were

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loud

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thud and we just kind of listen and

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was a kid i would pretend that i was

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sleeping and try to peek around to see

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what my dad was watching on tv

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i snuck up the stairs

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and there was nothing no movement no

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lights on nothing

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so i went back downstairs

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of a sudden it sounded like somebody

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and fell inside

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instant fear and i was like okay you're

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coming with me and we went upstairs we

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checked everything

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no windows were open the boy was still

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sound asleep so i was like okay i i

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don't know what to think about it

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we heard one more thud

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and as we were descending the stairs the

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parents came home and of course i i felt

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bad because i was on the stairs right

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where they were opening the door so as

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soon as they opened the door i screamed

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and so that was quite the homecoming and

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then i bolted and i went to her mom next

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door and i said you know we were hearing

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these things and she goes oh yes that's

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been happening the last three nights but

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it gets it ramps up after midnight and i

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was like seriously and she goes yeah and

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i said can we stay up will you stay up

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britney didn't want anything to do with

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it she went to bed

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i mean the the sounds i mean even

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thinking about it now i can feel it in

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my entire body

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it was like somebody took of a

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four-poster king-size bed and slammed it

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on the ceiling and drug it across the

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hardwood floor

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the banging and the movement was just i

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mean you could feel it

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upstairs

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but it was silent there was nothing

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brittany was sound asleep there was

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nothing and so

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eventually uh she she was very religious

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so she started to pray and

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and i was like okay just you know tell

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me what to do and i did it along with

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her and then eventually it all stopped

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and there was this really high-pitched

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ringing in our ears

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it was it was done but that was

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that was pretty scary that was my first

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um do you think activity is drawn to you

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yes and no i think i'm hyper aware

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and i think that because i'm aware

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that it does kind of act like a light in

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the dark and so that stuff is drawn to

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you like if it

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i don't know if it

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i mean i guess there's stuff that does

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feed off of your energy and then there's

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also stuff that wants help

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you know but then again

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there's one soul

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it splits off into two

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two stay behind is the higher self the

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other two incarnate here

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before we do that we kind of sign these

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contracts that say okay

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these are the things that we want to do

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while we're here

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so we can achieve whatever it is that

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our soul needs to raise its vibration

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and help those in our soul family

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so how much of it is

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what we signed up for

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how much of it is

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it being drawn to us

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did your mother or anybody else in your

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well that's interesting well you you may

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very well have something in you know

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some connection that you really just

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that's true interesting interesting

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yeah well um

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you know when you now you're talking

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you're talking about when when the uh

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when the physical body passes

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and then you have the lip the

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soul or life force whatever's left

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what are your thoughts on that as far as

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there's part of it that goes into

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another realm another level

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maybe there's some that stays on the

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particular and and what are your

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thoughts on in reincarnation

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i definitely believe in reincarnation

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i mean earth cannot hold

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all of the light

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that is our full soul

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whole wherever it is that we come from

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parts

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two are here on earth and that could be

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when you meet your twin flame your other

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and then the other two are your higher

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selves the higher self that you can work

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with when you're doing your meditations

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when you're learning your psychic

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abilities when you're you know all of

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that kind of thing

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so um

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yeah that's kind of

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what i think about about the soul

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so um let's say you're asked to come in

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on a case or you could ask to come in on

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haunting or

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i don't know i mean i really don't know

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exactly how you conduct uh

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you know

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investigations or such

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but let's say someone

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it

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calls you into

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to take care of a haunting or or even if

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you're doing just some type of other

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work with them

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how do you proceed how do you start off

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with them

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so going in on actual investigations to

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actual places is rather new for me i've

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only been to like

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there was two two places once was when i

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was about

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16 17 when i was learning i was going to

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healing group and i was learning reiki i

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didn't have you know all of my

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attunements yet

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and i was

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i went along with my teacher and she

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kind of showed me how

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she conducted it

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you know she would go in and she had her

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singing bowl and you know the different

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archangels that she would call upon the

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different energies that she would call

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in she would talk to it directly

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help it move on kind of a thing

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and then when i went when i was in ohio

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i went to fairfield

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and but i didn't know that that's where

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see and i didn't know that that's where

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i was going i it was a complete surprise

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it was a birthday surprise actually and

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what it was really interesting because

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when i had arrived at my friend's house

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i was like hey do you have a piece of

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paper and a pencil

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because i i could see something in my

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head and it was it was a location in a

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building so i sketched it out and i

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showed it to her and i said does this

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have any meaning to you and she was

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really surprised because there actually

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is a location in fairfield that has

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this um it's like a ramp with a

348
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um a railing

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and so

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i didn't get to know anything other than

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that i didn't know

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you know

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so i go in and everybody's getting set

354
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up and i thought okay well

355
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nobody's really doing anything it seems

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pretty

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chill and there's a couple other people

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looking around and i asked i was like so

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can i just go

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and they're like yeah sure so i wandered

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off by myself

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down into the basement

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and

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it felt

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pretty fine

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and i remember thinking i wonder what

367
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they used to do

368
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what kind of entertainment did they have

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and i found music and so i you know i

370
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was in choir so i learned you know

371
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learned how to read the the music notes

372
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and i started humming it and i was

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walking around humming

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and

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that was kind of also helping settle my

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nerves a little bit

377
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however i had turned the corner

378
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and i could literally feel

379
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a hand just reach up in the back of my

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head into my hair and i mean it was just

381
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as real as you and me and that thing

382
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boom yeah i mean i ran up all the stairs

383
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back to the group white as a sheet

384
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and

385
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they were like you ran off didn't you i

386
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was like well i thought it was okay

387
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so i you know that's what i did but then

388
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afterwards i thought okay

389
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that was a really rare occurrence

390
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what are the chances of that happening

391
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again so

392
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i wandered off again

393
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but nothing happened

394
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you know so

395
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the impression that

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physical contact is pretty

397
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you know it is consistent or does happen

398
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a lot and actually doesn't

399
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uh you're right it doesn't happen a lot

400
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you know i talk to people

401
00:16:03,590 --> 00:16:01,759
you know it seems that anybody does have

402
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physical contact they're out there and

403
00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:05,199
they're telling your story but it does

404
00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:08,480
just does not happen that that much

405
00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:10,720
i had very rarely had physical contact

406
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and when i did it was something

407
00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:15,839
some a psychic attack or something that

408
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you know was part of something i was

409
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doing

410
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but as far as being at a location and

411
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being touched

412
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that

413
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maybe one or two times but very rarely

414
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right

415
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two other times entire life that i have

416
00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:35,519
felt something touch me

417
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okay

418
00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:42,880
well let's talk about

419
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let's talk about the case

420
00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:48,000
or the incident you had

421
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with an alien being

422
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that i looked in

423
00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:56,000
i looked at for you

424
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uh

425
00:17:00,550 --> 00:16:59,199
kind of describe what happened and you

426
00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:00,560
know

427
00:17:05,990 --> 00:17:03,440
such

428
00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:06,000
yeah um so

429
00:17:10,309 --> 00:17:08,400
i at the apartment complex that i was

430
00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:10,319
living at i was writing for the little

431
00:17:15,590 --> 00:17:13,520
newsletter and there i was excited about

432
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:15,600
earth hour and i thought oh gosh you

433
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:17,280
know it would be great because then our

434
00:17:21,270 --> 00:17:19,679
light pollution would be lowered and we

435
00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:21,280
could see the stars maybe we could all

436
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go outside

437
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,600
and that so i was on the patio when i

438
00:17:29,830 --> 00:17:27,760
was thinking about this and that is

439
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:29,840
where my mind was

440
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:32,640
well from the corner of my eye i saw

441
00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:35,200
this big puff of smoke and i thought oh

442
00:17:39,669 --> 00:17:37,840
gosh you know maybe it's somebody vaping

443
00:17:41,830 --> 00:17:39,679
and because i couldn't believe how much

444
00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:41,840
smoke that they could you know and but i

445
00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,520
looked for a person but there was no

446
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:45,440
person

447
00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:51,270
um

448
00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:54,880
puff of smoke began to take form

449
00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,400
as a

450
00:18:00,150 --> 00:17:58,240
upright walking

451
00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:00,160
humanoid

452
00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:01,760
alien thing

453
00:18:05,669 --> 00:18:03,120
and

454
00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:05,679
i watched it walk down the road

455
00:18:12,470 --> 00:18:08,799
and i walked just like we do

456
00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,789
i remember i i stood there and i was

457
00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:17,440
staring at it and i was just thinking

458
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:19,840
don't don't go to fear don't think

459
00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:22,640
anything because what if it's telepathic

460
00:18:26,870 --> 00:18:24,960
it'll know it'll look at you don't so

461
00:18:29,590 --> 00:18:26,880
you you have to clear your mind you

462
00:18:31,990 --> 00:18:29,600
cannot you know and

463
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:32,000
and i was also frozen because i don't

464
00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:34,960
have fight or flight i freeze

465
00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:36,640
and

466
00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:37,919
i

467
00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:51,280
house

468
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:52,960
i thought that it was going to appear

469
00:19:02,549 --> 00:18:59,430
oh yeah i mean i have no i knew you were

470
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:02,559
shook up um yeah yeah i was crying when

471
00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:03,600
i called you

472
00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:04,880
yeah no

473
00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:06,320
i know

474
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:10,549
so so

475
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:13,760
what was the what was the lead up to the

476
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:15,840
photograph

477
00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:17,919
well after i had gotten inside i called

478
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:22,400
my sister because i was hysterical and i

479
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:25,600
couldn't believe what i had seen so

480
00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:28,240
i was i shut the patio door and i shut

481
00:19:31,909 --> 00:19:29,600
the um

482
00:19:33,830 --> 00:19:31,919
the curtains and then i remembered that

483
00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:33,840
the kids window was wide open and the

484
00:19:39,510 --> 00:19:35,280
curtains were open

485
00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:39,520
so i ran in there and i shut the

486
00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:40,640
window

487
00:19:44,710 --> 00:19:42,640
but i had the phone in my hand she was

488
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:44,720
on speaker phone at this point

489
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:47,120
and i had this feeling that i was being

490
00:19:51,590 --> 00:19:49,200
stared at

491
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and i told her and i didn't look yet i

492
00:19:55,510 --> 00:19:54,400
was like i i feel like i'm being stared

493
00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:55,520
at i

494
00:20:00,150 --> 00:19:57,840
am afraid to look and she was like you

495
00:20:01,270 --> 00:20:00,160
know i'm here i'm on the phone you know

496
00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,280
it's fine

497
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,360
and i looked up and it was there in the

498
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:05,760
window in the complex right across from

499
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me or the units

500
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and

501
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,559
so

502
00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:12,640
i

503
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so

504
00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,280
i clicked the camera and i lifted it up

505
00:20:29,830 --> 00:20:27,039
and i clicked it and then boom as soon

506
00:20:31,270 --> 00:20:29,840
as i hit the capture button i was

507
00:20:33,750 --> 00:20:31,280
holding the

508
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,760
string for the blinds when i did it and

509
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:35,919
i released the blind so they came down

510
00:20:39,350 --> 00:20:37,840
and it was over and it was done with and

511
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,360
i left the room

512
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:41,840
trying really hard not to let the kids

513
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,200
know that because they're like what are

514
00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:45,760
you doing and i said something like i'm

515
00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:47,280
just being weird

516
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:48,480
and i left

517
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:49,440
and

518
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:51,360
uh

519
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,440
i was

520
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:55,440
i for not the nights that followed

521
00:21:01,350 --> 00:20:58,400
because because this thing

522
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,360
literally manifested out of nowhere out

523
00:21:04,870 --> 00:21:03,360
of literally nothing this fog just

524
00:21:06,950 --> 00:21:04,880
happened

525
00:21:08,070 --> 00:21:06,960
who's to say and then now it's over

526
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:08,080
there

527
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,760
who's to say that it can't just show up

528
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:11,760
at the end of my bed

529
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,039
you know

530
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:15,520
and and that's the thing is like

531
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:18,000
i've had so many experiences in my life

532
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:20,240
you know even being here it was a couple

533
00:21:23,270 --> 00:21:21,360
months ago

534
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:23,280
i have a um

535
00:21:27,990 --> 00:21:26,080
a toolbox that was up on a shelf while

536
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:28,000
it was secure

537
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,320
somehow it came off the shelf and landed

538
00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:32,559
on my dryer which of course landed in a

539
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,480
huge crash and this is right as we're

540
00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:36,000
trying to go to sleep

541
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:38,080
and i was just like not tonight

542
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:39,840
you know and i went in there and i took

543
00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,840
the the toolbox and i put it on the

544
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:44,159
floor and i was just very firm not

545
00:21:47,750 --> 00:21:45,200
tonight

546
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:47,760
and i went to bed it was

547
00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:52,950
i was i i

548
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:55,760
it it takes a lot to shake me up

549
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:56,960
well

550
00:22:00,390 --> 00:21:59,360
if i remember correctly the

551
00:22:02,310 --> 00:22:00,400
um

552
00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:02,320
this entity

553
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,120
you saw it in the courtyard below this

554
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:06,720
apartment outside

555
00:22:09,430 --> 00:22:08,480
right it was it actually came across the

556
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,440
road

557
00:22:13,430 --> 00:22:11,039
and then yeah it was

558
00:22:15,510 --> 00:22:13,440
yeah down by the white fence it walked

559
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:15,520
along the road down by the white fence

560
00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:17,760
right

561
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,760
interesting i mean that that that's

562
00:22:23,430 --> 00:22:21,679
bizarre that that thing showed up like

563
00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:23,440
that and i'll be honest with you i still

564
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:24,960
don't know what happened

565
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:27,280
i mean i you know this thing i don't

566
00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:29,919
know i'm pretty sure it was aware of you

567
00:22:38,830 --> 00:22:33,120
and nancy in the in the chat asked if do

568
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:44,310
so that kind of jumps into

569
00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,390
i don't know how to

570
00:22:51,590 --> 00:22:48,480
um

571
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:53,350
okay there was a story

572
00:22:58,870 --> 00:22:56,400
that i did not put in my book okay

573
00:23:00,149 --> 00:22:58,880
and the story that i didn't put in my

574
00:23:03,909 --> 00:23:00,159
book is

575
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:03,919
where i'm starting my second book

576
00:23:09,590 --> 00:23:07,120
and i have recently undergone

577
00:23:12,470 --> 00:23:09,600
a hypnotic regression

578
00:23:12,890 --> 00:23:12,480
in regards to this experience

579
00:23:15,590 --> 00:23:12,900
um

580
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:15,600
[Music]

581
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:18,000
i mean i guess the short answer is

582
00:23:20,830 --> 00:23:19,760
it could be

583
00:23:22,390 --> 00:23:20,840
i think that

584
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:22,400
they're

585
00:23:33,270 --> 00:23:29,669
extraterrestrial

586
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,750
it's

587
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:38,630
such a new subject for me to

588
00:23:42,549 --> 00:23:40,000
open up about

589
00:23:44,549 --> 00:23:42,559
well if you if you ever want to talk

590
00:23:46,149 --> 00:23:44,559
about it you you know all you got to do

591
00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:46,159
is call me because i've been through

592
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,919
this myself

593
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:50,159
and uh if you want to talk about that at

594
00:23:54,070 --> 00:23:51,840
some point we can

595
00:23:57,990 --> 00:23:54,080
um i appreciate that yeah that's no

596
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,000
problem uh because i've

597
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:59,919
you know i i've been

598
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:02,080
taken and i've been shown things and you

599
00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:03,120
know

600
00:24:08,549 --> 00:24:06,080
on several occasions and uh

601
00:24:10,630 --> 00:24:08,559
i get it i understand how it can you

602
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:10,640
know how it can upset you

603
00:24:15,750 --> 00:24:13,600
uh but uh yeah if you think this thing

604
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:15,760
is following you i don't blame you if

605
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:20,080
you believe it's still around you um

606
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,440
yeah i mean

607
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:24,000
it's the the title of the of my next

608
00:24:28,789 --> 00:24:26,400
book is paramorphosis which is a word i

609
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:28,799
kind of just came up with by combining

610
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:30,480
paranormal and

611
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,200
metamorphosis and squished them together

612
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,760
for paramorphosis because

613
00:24:40,950 --> 00:24:38,480
what i am finding out

614
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:40,960
what i am leaning towards

615
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:42,320
is that

616
00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:44,080
i believe that

617
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:46,640
there is a a big possibility that a lot

618
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,720
of the paranormal experiences that i've

619
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:50,559
had are actually

620
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,360
uh extraterrestrial in nature and that

621
00:24:57,669 --> 00:24:55,520
one

622
00:25:02,070 --> 00:24:57,679
yeah that would not surprise me because

623
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,080
i i have had a theory for a long time

624
00:25:06,149 --> 00:25:04,240
that

625
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,159
most cryptids and such are

626
00:25:10,149 --> 00:25:08,960
ultra-terrestrial beings

627
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:10,159
and that

628
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,200
there's a lot of there's a fine line

629
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:15,520
but there's a lot of similarity between

630
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,200
hauntings

631
00:25:20,549 --> 00:25:18,640
and uh

632
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:20,559
inter i mean uh

633
00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,720
non-terrestrial infestations and

634
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:24,320
encounters

635
00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:25,840
right uh

636
00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:28,320
i had been on a few cases where they

637
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:31,039
have been together

638
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,240
now right why that is i don't know i

639
00:25:38,470 --> 00:25:36,400
mean

640
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,480
you know i i think i think that there is

641
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,400
a connection though and i you know i it

642
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:42,799
does show in fact even encrypted

643
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,000
settings

644
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:46,799
there's there's some non-terrestrial uh

645
00:25:50,950 --> 00:25:49,840
involvement with these as well

646
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,960
uh

647
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:52,480
i mean i don't know what you think of

648
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:55,200
think about interdimensional

649
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,120
uh beings and

650
00:26:02,070 --> 00:25:58,960
you know from other re uh other

651
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:02,080
dimensions or possibly realities i i

652
00:26:06,070 --> 00:26:04,320
don't know what you think about that

653
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:06,080
but um

654
00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:09,520
i think as time has time goes by

655
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,960
i think this is something we're going to

656
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:12,960
understand more and more as time goes by

657
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,710
people are going to start realizing that

658
00:26:22,149 --> 00:26:20,559
there is a connection and maybe just

659
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:22,159
start tying a lot of this together you

660
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:25,520
know i hear more and more and more

661
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:30,549
into the

662
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:33,279
not spiritual but non-terrestrial entity

663
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,320
cases

664
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:36,480
now than i ever have

665
00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,840
and uh you know people are shook up when

666
00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:41,760
it happens to them and they they just

667
00:26:47,510 --> 00:26:45,440
look for answers and uh yeah i get it

668
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,520
i do believe that

669
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:49,279
the

670
00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,360
project

671
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:57,120
you know they do the screen memories and

672
00:27:00,149 --> 00:26:59,039
then they they can do projections

673
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,159
because then

674
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,960
we our attention is on that and not them

675
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,120
or their you know what they're doing so

676
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:06,559
i do believe that

677
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:10,480
it and as for the multi-dimensional

678
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,880
i have learned so much this year

679
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:14,559
um

680
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:17,440
so much i mean even a little thing such

681
00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:20,880
as the thought of that maybe some ghosts

682
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:21,840
not all

683
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,640
but some ghosts are

684
00:27:29,029 --> 00:27:27,039
actually a time slip where you're

685
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,039
viewing maybe into the past or into the

686
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:30,880
future and that they're not all just

687
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:32,000
deceased

688
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:33,520
and that's a brand new thought that has

689
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:36,799
has come to me this year so

690
00:27:43,590 --> 00:27:39,679
i can pretty well confirm that to you

691
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,600
right right i'm sure yeah yeah

692
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:45,360
um vincent

693
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,880
there seems to be a type of person that

694
00:27:49,830 --> 00:27:48,559
experiences these things more than

695
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:49,840
others

696
00:27:56,310 --> 00:27:52,720
uh have you had a near-death experience

697
00:28:00,830 --> 00:27:59,100
i opened my book with it actually um

698
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:00,840
[Music]

699
00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:02,559
i

700
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:10,960
because that's what what he would do and

701
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,919
uh

702
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:13,200
the tread

703
00:28:18,549 --> 00:28:15,440
so the ti so it was really strange

704
00:28:20,389 --> 00:28:18,559
because i was in the front seat

705
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:20,399
i haven't actually really talked about

706
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:21,279
this

707
00:28:28,230 --> 00:28:27,350
there was a movie

708
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,240
scene

709
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:30,159
that played in my head and i thought it

710
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,360
was really weird and i didn't want to

711
00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:33,520
think about it it was of a car wreck

712
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,600
and i sat up and as soon as i sat up

713
00:28:39,750 --> 00:28:37,120
because i'm like okay i don't want to

714
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,760
think about this i sat up and i heard a

715
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:41,919
really loud pop sound

716
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:44,960
like an explosion and that was all the

717
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,919
tread coming off of our tire

718
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:49,360
and then

719
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:53,360
the next thing i know it's black and

720
00:28:58,710 --> 00:28:55,919
when i come too

721
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:58,720
we're upright thankfully we're in a

722
00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:01,360
small ford ranger pickup and the entire

723
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:03,440
roof had had come in

724
00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:06,559
and uh so my dad laying across both of

725
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:10,399
us and you know really saved us both and

726
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:13,039
we flipped i think twice

727
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:13,840
so

728
00:29:19,669 --> 00:29:14,799
uh

729
00:29:20,710 --> 00:29:19,679
stitches on the back of my hand

730
00:29:23,909 --> 00:29:20,720
wow

731
00:29:28,630 --> 00:29:26,230
you know i i i see this more and more

732
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,640
with people who have

733
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:30,480
near-death experiences or something

734
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:32,240
comfortable even people that go into

735
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,600
surgery

736
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,320
that are under the knife and

737
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:38,000
uh

738
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:39,520
something seems to open up for them

739
00:29:42,630 --> 00:29:40,399
sometimes

740
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,640
and um

741
00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,640
uh i'm not saying it's that they they

742
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:46,159
all the time see the light or see

743
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,679
whatever you know

744
00:29:51,990 --> 00:29:49,919
it's hard for them to describe

745
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:52,000
but it seems that when you know the

746
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,840
events over with and you know they

747
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:57,919
they recuperate and then they get home

748
00:30:01,750 --> 00:29:59,679
then things start to happen

749
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:01,760
that they can't understand things open

750
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:03,279
up for them

751
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,399
um

752
00:30:08,549 --> 00:30:06,080
i mean you've heard of people who have

753
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,559
had going to comas and wake up speaking

754
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,480
other languages and

755
00:30:13,590 --> 00:30:11,840
you know other things like that and

756
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:13,600
talking about things they experienced

757
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:14,559
with

758
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:15,600
uh

759
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:16,320
but

760
00:30:21,110 --> 00:30:19,279
yeah i mean you know the human mind is

761
00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:21,120
really strange

762
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:23,919
and that's the one thing i i think

763
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:26,399
that's the one thing we really have no

764
00:30:31,510 --> 00:30:28,880
idea what's going on is

765
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,520
is the mind physically recreating or

766
00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:33,440
creating these scenarios or is there

767
00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:34,799
something

768
00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:38,720
that that enter does enter us during

769
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:40,880
an event like that

770
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,590
i don't know intensifies our abilities

771
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,679
maybe as a defense mechanism i don't

772
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:51,760
know

773
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:54,559
yeah i'm not sure that's definitely not

774
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,760
um

775
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,679
not one that i've thought about a lot i

776
00:31:01,909 --> 00:31:00,240
mean i've had a couple i had caesareans

777
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,919
as well so

778
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:03,120
um

779
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,600
but it's definitely an interesting

780
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:07,039
thought

781
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:08,720
that's for sure

782
00:31:11,190 --> 00:31:10,240
um

783
00:31:13,430 --> 00:31:11,200
well

784
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:13,440
uh

785
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:14,399
now you

786
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,000
you call yourself and i asked this

787
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:18,480
before the show you call yourself

788
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:19,279
a

789
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:48,799
there you go you've got your your

790
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:51,200
vampire witch and she's somebody as well

791
00:31:55,990 --> 00:31:54,000
that you know believes in in feminine

792
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:56,000
empowerment and

793
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:57,679
uh

794
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:00,399
not being constrained by society's

795
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:02,880
boxes that they try to put on women and

796
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:08,230
well i have dabbled in the past

797
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:10,480
and uh

798
00:32:21,029 --> 00:32:17,029
i i'm not proud of some of the things

799
00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:21,039
i've done and i i very rarely do it now

800
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:23,440
but uh i used to do a lot of detonation

801
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:25,120
and it's got me in a bind a couple of

802
00:32:29,110 --> 00:32:26,320
times

803
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:29,120
um but the one thing that that i have

804
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,120
consistently used over the years and i

805
00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:33,360
use it for my cases as well

806
00:32:36,149 --> 00:32:34,960
even when i do orbeez and stuff or

807
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,159
crystals

808
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:38,720
and i'm very

809
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:41,120
i i'm

810
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:43,760
i'm just so attracted to them and i i do

811
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,240
gather so much energy from them

812
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,640
now you being a reekie heel or a reekie

813
00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:50,640
master i mean i'm quite sure you use

814
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:52,640
them as well right

815
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:57,200
i have uh sometimes but not all the time

816
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,240
it's more of that hands-on healing and

817
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:02,159
and calling upon the energies and

818
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,880
everything uh crystals are it's

819
00:33:09,590 --> 00:33:06,720
interesting because i actually come from

820
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:09,600
a long line of rockhanders

821
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:13,279
so my yeah my dad my grandpa my great

822
00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,360
great grandpappy

823
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:17,200
they all went out and they'd go look for

824
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:19,840
rocks agates and crystals and

825
00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,080
i mean you name it we had so many rocks

826
00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,399
agates that went i mean we had a rock

827
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:29,600
garden that went around our entire house

828
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:32,240
wow it was huge oh yeah

829
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,000
yeah i've known a few rock hounds in my

830
00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:36,399
time and uh yeah

831
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:39,360
oh yeah yeah yeah i'm not necessarily

832
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:42,799
one of them i mean i'm i'm i kind of get

833
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:44,320
the end product when it ends up in the

834
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:46,880
shop and when i see it

835
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:49,360
well that's for me but you know i i

836
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:51,360
haven't really gone out and dug anything

837
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:53,279
or looked for anything

838
00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:54,080
uh

839
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,760
interesting

840
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:57,279
yeah

841
00:34:03,110 --> 00:34:00,240
so you you did say you had a

842
00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,120
sasquatch experience

843
00:34:07,590 --> 00:34:06,000
yes in ohio actually uh can you tell us

844
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:07,600
a bit about that

845
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,079
yeah actually that so that one is the

846
00:34:14,710 --> 00:34:12,320
last story in my book and it was

847
00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:14,720
actually the hardest one to write

848
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:17,040
and i

849
00:34:22,790 --> 00:34:20,320
it really the book stood between you

850
00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:22,800
know going to print and not all over

851
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:25,440
this story

852
00:34:30,629 --> 00:34:28,399
yeah because

853
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:30,639
when you write

854
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,200
you relive your stories in a

855
00:34:37,109 --> 00:34:34,960
in such a different way than when you're

856
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,119
talking about them yeah because you're

857
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,200
really wanting to paint that picture for

858
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,040
your reader and you're really pulling

859
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:43,359
them in that theater of the mind

860
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,560
and

861
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:46,800
i had to put it down multiple times to

862
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:48,720
try to get through it

863
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:52,000
it started out with going and doing a

864
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:54,320
ghost investigation just to see if there

865
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:57,359
was anything at this location

866
00:35:00,630 --> 00:34:59,680
really no big deal

867
00:35:02,630 --> 00:35:00,640
and

868
00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,640
we had somebody doing the estes method

869
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,160
which is where you have your noise

870
00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:05,520
canceling headphones and you're

871
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,280
blindfolded and you're listening to a

872
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:08,960
spirit box

873
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:10,880
there was a lot of stuff that came

874
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,000
through

875
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:15,200
that seemed to be attached to the land

876
00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:18,480
so i had the idea that okay

877
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:20,079
well maybe we need to go out in the

878
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:23,520
woods and do this ghost investigation

879
00:35:27,990 --> 00:35:25,680
since whatever is talking through the

880
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:28,000
spirit box seems to be so connected with

881
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:29,359
the land

882
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:31,839
so we waited until nightfall

883
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,040
this was like a day later maybe two days

884
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,359
but we went out there

885
00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:40,000
and we got everything set up

886
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:43,040
now i was asked because of my

887
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:45,280
being an empath and being able to feel

888
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:46,160
things

889
00:35:50,069 --> 00:35:48,560
we go in and they're like so how you

890
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,079
feeling

891
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:52,079
well i felt fine

892
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,640
i didn't notice that it was dead quiet

893
00:35:58,870 --> 00:35:57,040
because here in oregon it's pretty quiet

894
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:58,880
you go out into the woods at night

895
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:00,960
there's really not a whole lot but man

896
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,920
over there in ohio it is an orchestra i

897
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,440
i hadn't you know that was the first

898
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,160
time i also saw any fireflies it was a

899
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:10,000
really special trip

900
00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:10,839
and

901
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:13,520
uh so we go in there

902
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,280
and we set everything up

903
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:17,760
and i'm like okay all right and i sit

904
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:22,150
and i heard

905
00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:24,079
a

906
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:33,359
my right

907
00:36:39,750 --> 00:36:36,000
but i just kind of was like okay

908
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,760
you know whatever it's a bird or it's a

909
00:36:44,230 --> 00:36:42,240
you know just trying to rationalize it

910
00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:44,240
and

911
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:45,839
i didn't hear it walk very much it was

912
00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:52,710
but then i heard this

913
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:54,480
really low

914
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:57,200
guttural

915
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,800
growl

916
00:37:03,510 --> 00:37:01,040
and my eyes shot over to the people that

917
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,520
i was with and they had no reaction and

918
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:05,760
i'm like okay

919
00:37:11,589 --> 00:37:08,640
i'm the only one that heard this

920
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,599
i'm gonna chalk it up to being a big

921
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,960
scaredy-cat

922
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:15,119
so i stand up and i'm like i'm just not

923
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:16,640
gonna have my back to that direction

924
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:19,680
anymore i'm gonna stand up so i stood up

925
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,079
and i got one of the flashlights

926
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,760
and i'm looking and i don't see anything

927
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:25,680
at all nothing

928
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:28,560
well then i look over to the entrance on

929
00:37:33,109 --> 00:37:31,119
where we came and where this little

930
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,119
four-wheeler that we came in on was

931
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:37,670
and just

932
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:40,240
just barely out of the flashlight's

933
00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:41,520
reach

934
00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,079
standing next to this tree you could see

935
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:49,109
it's the perfect

936
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,270
and i'm just staring at it and i'm like

937
00:38:02,310 --> 00:37:59,680
i'm not here for you

938
00:38:05,109 --> 00:38:02,320
this is not what i'm here for i'm not

939
00:38:07,030 --> 00:38:05,119
this is i'm like this has never been a

940
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:07,040
part of my reality

941
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:10,400
i'm not choosing this and so i i

942
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,960
take the flashlight and i go back to the

943
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:15,599
area that i was first looking

944
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,160
and i turn it off and as soon as i turn

945
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:20,400
the flashlight off

946
00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:23,680
there was a really loud open-handed

947
00:38:28,069 --> 00:38:25,920
smack against the car the the

948
00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:28,079
four-wheeler that we drove in on

949
00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:30,640
just this whack

950
00:38:36,470 --> 00:38:33,760
and i look at who i'm with and i'm just

951
00:38:38,630 --> 00:38:36,480
staring at them and they're laughing

952
00:38:40,310 --> 00:38:38,640
you know because normally if you are on

953
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,320
an investigation and you're in a

954
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,079
building there's going to be a lot of

955
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,359
sounds

956
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:45,440
but we were out in the woods

957
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:46,560
and

958
00:38:50,310 --> 00:38:49,119
but it still didn't register

959
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,320
so

960
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:52,720
i'm just froze at this point and they're

961
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,000
asking me they're like are you okay and

962
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:58,000
i went to shake my head yes because of

963
00:39:02,950 --> 00:39:00,560
course i wanted to be brave

964
00:39:04,390 --> 00:39:02,960
but i i immediately was like no no i

965
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:04,400
need to go to the field i really want to

966
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:05,280
go to the field i don't want to be in

967
00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:06,480
here anymore

968
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:07,359
and

969
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:10,880
they're like okay okay we'll we'll go

970
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:13,040
so we loaded everything up and we drove

971
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:14,560
out to the field

972
00:39:17,589 --> 00:39:15,599
well

973
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,599
we get the blanket out again and i'm

974
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,520
like okay

975
00:39:24,150 --> 00:39:22,000
i'm feeling good all right here we go

976
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:24,160
you know this is this is a good place to

977
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:25,040
be

978
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:30,880
it was also this feeling that i was

979
00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:31,599
in

980
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:38,960
i didn't really have

981
00:39:42,870 --> 00:39:40,160
was it me

982
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,880
being afraid or was it something i just

983
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,880
couldn't tell yet

984
00:39:48,390 --> 00:39:46,000
so

985
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:48,400
we're on the blanket

986
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,320
and i was with heather mosher

987
00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:52,640
from small town monsters and she gets

988
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,920
out her phone

989
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,520
and she plays the

990
00:40:03,990 --> 00:39:57,119
1994

991
00:40:10,150 --> 00:40:06,710
and out of the woods

992
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,160
the same tone the same cadence

993
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:12,480
everything

994
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,680
and so loud just comes

995
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,920
right from where we were right from

996
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:19,760
where we were

997
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:22,319
and i'm frozen and in this moment i'm

998
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,680
thinking

999
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:25,119
okay

1000
00:40:28,630 --> 00:40:27,520
monsters really do exist

1001
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:28,640
i'm done

1002
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:31,760
and

1003
00:40:37,910 --> 00:40:35,520
before we could get back in the vehicle

1004
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:37,920
it sounded like something ripped up a

1005
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:40,960
tree and smashed it against another tree

1006
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,880
and at that point like we had jumped in

1007
00:40:48,710 --> 00:40:45,280
the vehicle and i'm just like go go go

1008
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:48,720
cause i i was done overdone you know and

1009
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:51,200
and that moment

1010
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:53,760
i don't ever have to work or look i

1011
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:55,920
don't ever have to look for sasquatch i

1012
00:41:03,589 --> 00:40:58,079
don't have to

1013
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:04,390
so

1014
00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:10,110
um

1015
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,839
[Music]

1016
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:13,200
yes

1017
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:19,270
that just flashed to me i figured that's

1018
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,400
where it was

1019
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,560
um

1020
00:41:25,829 --> 00:41:24,960
do you think

1021
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:25,839
that

1022
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,400
you had a connection with this thing

1023
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,550
well

1024
00:41:37,990 --> 00:41:36,160
it gets a little bit more interesting on

1025
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,000
that note

1026
00:41:42,790 --> 00:41:40,640
because

1027
00:41:44,470 --> 00:41:42,800
there's two camps in the sasquatch world

1028
00:41:46,630 --> 00:41:44,480
where you've got the people that believe

1029
00:41:48,550 --> 00:41:46,640
that he rides ufos and chills with

1030
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,560
aliens and then you have the other half

1031
00:41:51,910 --> 00:41:49,839
that are like

1032
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,920
no it's it's no different than the great

1033
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:53,760
panda you know

1034
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:56,319
and uh just a physical

1035
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,309
i was like okay well process of

1036
00:42:06,390 --> 00:42:04,400
elimination i wonder what would happen

1037
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:06,400
if we got out the spirit box and tried

1038
00:42:09,670 --> 00:42:08,240
to communicate with it

1039
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,680
i mean because you just don't know why

1040
00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:11,760
not you know for fun

1041
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:14,000
and we were back at base camp as well so

1042
00:42:18,390 --> 00:42:15,280
i felt safe

1043
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:18,400
and so we we got it out

1044
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:19,680
and we put

1045
00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:25,829
and

1046
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:29,040
stuff started coming through

1047
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,640
and it was really interesting because

1048
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,640
the other people that i was with you

1049
00:42:36,710 --> 00:42:34,800
could hear movement

1050
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:36,720
around us

1051
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,319
and then

1052
00:42:42,870 --> 00:42:40,560
off on this ridge

1053
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:42,880
there's this tree in the moonlight and

1054
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,359
you could see that same silhouette and

1055
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,520
it was almost like it was swaying back

1056
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,440
and forth

1057
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,800
and

1058
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:52,480
all of a sudden heather says

1059
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:53,359
see

1060
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:56,800
and

1061
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,400
it was i mean it was just right on cue

1062
00:43:04,870 --> 00:43:02,720
and again she can't see this she can't

1063
00:43:07,670 --> 00:43:04,880
hear anything that's going on

1064
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,680
well then another person uh turns on a

1065
00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:09,680
flashlight and is pointing it over in

1066
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:10,880
this direction

1067
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:13,119
and then boom heather is like bright too

1068
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:14,240
bright

1069
00:43:20,069 --> 00:43:17,440
so boom we turned it off

1070
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:20,079
well from there

1071
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:21,359
stuff

1072
00:43:28,390 --> 00:43:26,710
they were talking about how they were

1073
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:28,400
once worshiped

1074
00:43:33,990 --> 00:43:30,640
but now they're a myth

1075
00:43:36,870 --> 00:43:34,000
and there was talk about the land how

1076
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:36,880
things aren't something's missing but

1077
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:38,400
it's not just that things are missing

1078
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:39,680
from the land

1079
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:41,760
it's something with with the people

1080
00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:44,000
there's a disconnect between people and

1081
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,160
the land and them i mean this was a

1082
00:43:48,580 --> 00:43:48,240
really intense session

1083
00:43:49,829 --> 00:43:48,590
and

1084
00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:49,839
[Music]

1085
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,560
but towards the end

1086
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:54,079
there was something else that started to

1087
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:55,760
come through and i could see it in my

1088
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,480
mind and somebody else saw it as well he

1089
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:00,560
told me what he saw which confirmed what

1090
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:02,880
i saw

1091
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:04,880
and it was this

1092
00:44:08,710 --> 00:44:06,960
the the best word i could use is

1093
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:08,720
trickster

1094
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,359
because it looked like it had antlers

1095
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:13,440
like it's got this dear face

1096
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,599
and then heather would

1097
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:18,000
talk in a sing-song type of a voice when

1098
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,160
this thing would come through

1099
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:22,480
and as it came through

1100
00:44:27,349 --> 00:44:25,280
it was like they

1101
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,359
just backed off and disappeared and they

1102
00:44:31,510 --> 00:44:29,119
were no longer there

1103
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:31,520
and then it said some stuff about our

1104
00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,839
children and we cut it off we were done

1105
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:35,520
at that point it

1106
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:37,920
we disconnected and

1107
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:39,920
and that was

1108
00:44:47,829 --> 00:44:41,920
that was that that sounds like a it

1109
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,069
yeah i don't know it's um it was it was

1110
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:55,440
such an a multi-layered experience you

1111
00:44:59,349 --> 00:44:57,200
know

1112
00:45:03,510 --> 00:44:59,359
um

1113
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:06,069
these uh these sentinels are protectors

1114
00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:09,040
that that seem to show up

1115
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:11,520
after uh cryptid encounters in

1116
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:13,839
particular bigfoot uh

1117
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:15,520
that just show up

1118
00:45:20,390 --> 00:45:17,680
um

1119
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:20,400
i think vincent mentioned faye i i don't

1120
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,200
know

1121
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,359
there's a things that

1122
00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:25,839
i mean the old world name was a leshi

1123
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:29,200
was a type of a woodland spirit

1124
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,960
uh but i've heard people talk about it

1125
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,400
you know here

1126
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:37,440
that they they get these

1127
00:45:42,230 --> 00:45:40,079
not necessarily apparitions but there's

1128
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:42,240
or actual physical beings but they sense

1129
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,359
something

1130
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:45,119
um

1131
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,319
i don't know

1132
00:45:56,230 --> 00:45:52,480
have you ever heard of what if it was

1133
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:56,240
the other way around where sasquatch was

1134
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,760
like if you have sasquatch and you have

1135
00:46:05,270 --> 00:45:59,040
a windigo

1136
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:07,190
you know when you talk about wendigos

1137
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:08,880
you're talking basically about a

1138
00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:10,720
possessed human

1139
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:13,440
uh it's not necessarily a shape-shifting

1140
00:46:17,270 --> 00:46:16,319
being or like what people think they are

1141
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:17,280
like

1142
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:18,240
uh

1143
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:20,960
these flesh-eating

1144
00:46:25,990 --> 00:46:23,760
sometimes they have antlers and such

1145
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,000
um i i think when you're getting to the

1146
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,960
spirit world as far as the indigenous

1147
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:30,000
being

1148
00:46:33,270 --> 00:46:31,599
indigenous folks

1149
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:33,280
and and what they

1150
00:46:36,710 --> 00:46:35,200
interpreted them as i i think you get

1151
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:36,720
there but i think

1152
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:39,119
when you talk about actual wendigos and

1153
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:40,880
possessions of humans that turn into

1154
00:46:45,349 --> 00:46:43,359
cannibals and that's that type of thing

1155
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,359
you know chad lewis wrote a hell of a

1156
00:46:50,550 --> 00:46:48,240
good book about wendigos

1157
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,560
yes i need to pick that up yeah that

1158
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,640
that book it kind of opened my eyes

1159
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:54,800
because he really went into detail with

1160
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,520
it

1161
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:57,200
and uh

1162
00:47:00,790 --> 00:46:59,359
yeah i mean i always thought it was more

1163
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:00,800
of um

1164
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:02,960
more of a cryptid as opposed to an

1165
00:47:05,990 --> 00:47:04,160
actual

1166
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,000
possessed human

1167
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:09,280
but uh yeah i don't know i mean it it

1168
00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:11,520
could be i don't know there's a lot of

1169
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,599
things out there i mean you know there's

1170
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,520
more stuff out there than we really know

1171
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:16,640
about

1172
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,560
and uh every once in a while somebody

1173
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,319
will come forward or something is like

1174
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:22,800
um you know what is that

1175
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,960
you know what what are people what is

1176
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,800
that they're describing

1177
00:47:31,829 --> 00:47:28,880
um

1178
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:31,839
i've definitely learned that the more i

1179
00:47:37,190 --> 00:47:34,160
am in this field and the more that i

1180
00:47:39,829 --> 00:47:37,200
learn i realize the less i know

1181
00:47:41,349 --> 00:47:39,839
and i will probably always be

1182
00:47:43,270 --> 00:47:41,359
a student

1183
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,280
there's no way to

1184
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:45,760
well i'm always really learn it all

1185
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:46,720
yes

1186
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:49,200
i mean there's no experts as far as i'm

1187
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:50,240
concerned

1188
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:52,640
exactly you know you're learning all the

1189
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,359
time i got an interesting question

1190
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,359
uh piece asked

1191
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,359
lon do you ever get together with other

1192
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,160
impasse to do on-site research yeah

1193
00:48:05,270 --> 00:48:04,160
absolutely

1194
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,280
i mean

1195
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:08,079
many many of the people on the team are

1196
00:48:12,630 --> 00:48:09,040
actual

1197
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,640
psychics and empaths and intuitives and

1198
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:14,240
i think that's important i think that's

1199
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,920
a big part of

1200
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,520
what we do

1201
00:48:21,990 --> 00:48:19,440
i think that is an important part of the

1202
00:48:24,230 --> 00:48:22,000
research actually being able to

1203
00:48:28,069 --> 00:48:24,240
go beyond

1204
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,079
uh

1205
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,640
you know the physical world and see

1206
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:32,720
what's going on and get a sense of

1207
00:48:37,990 --> 00:48:35,839
what's going on and you know

1208
00:48:39,829 --> 00:48:38,000
being an empath getting a sense of what

1209
00:48:41,829 --> 00:48:39,839
the being is or

1210
00:48:43,589 --> 00:48:41,839
or the spirit or even the person who's

1211
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:43,599
have or the victim you know the actual

1212
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:45,040
eyewitness

1213
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:47,040
i i think that has a lot to do with and

1214
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,800
i'll be honest with you

1215
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,880
those type of investigations where we

1216
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:53,920
use that type of those type of abilities

1217
00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:56,240
tend to get solved

1218
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:58,000
because we usually bring something out

1219
00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:00,160
that they're either reluctant to talk

1220
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:01,760
about

1221
00:49:06,630 --> 00:49:04,160
and it is important though they felt it

1222
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:06,640
wasn't and then we we get some more

1223
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,920
answers

1224
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:09,599
uh i've been i've been involved with

1225
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:11,920
stuff like that before and uh it happens

1226
00:49:15,750 --> 00:49:13,359
all the time

1227
00:49:18,069 --> 00:49:15,760
so i think that is great

1228
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:18,079
yeah i think that is important uh

1229
00:49:23,030 --> 00:49:19,599
evidence wants to know you think your

1230
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,040
irish heritage influences your

1231
00:49:29,589 --> 00:49:27,990
i think every irishman's got

1232
00:49:31,270 --> 00:49:29,599
something about

1233
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:31,280
you know you're talking about your irish

1234
00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,960
heritage and

1235
00:49:36,390 --> 00:49:34,240
and uh

1236
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:36,400
you were talking about appalachia and

1237
00:49:40,630 --> 00:49:38,160
they people and most of the people that

1238
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,640
moved the appalachian were irish

1239
00:49:45,990 --> 00:49:42,319
i mean right when you get into

1240
00:49:49,990 --> 00:49:48,549
going deep into the customs the music

1241
00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:50,000
the

1242
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,920
it all goes back to

1243
00:49:58,950 --> 00:49:55,920
the old world you know

1244
00:50:01,829 --> 00:49:58,960
oh yeah no it's it's been amazing to get

1245
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:01,839
to know because all of my irish ancestry

1246
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:03,680
is on my maternal side

1247
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,480
and i became my family's genealogist and

1248
00:50:11,349 --> 00:50:08,480
it was really cool because

1249
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:11,359
there are i found an article that there

1250
00:50:13,270 --> 00:50:12,480
are certain

1251
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:13,280
uh

1252
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,440
gods and goddesses

1253
00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:18,319
that in irish tradition they say oh well

1254
00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:21,920
this clan is descended from you know

1255
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,200
like uh fledayus the forest goddess and

1256
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:28,000
actually one of my surnames

1257
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:29,680
is actually connected to her so i

1258
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,730
thought that that was really amazing

1259
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,839
[Music]

1260
00:50:37,350 --> 00:50:35,520
yeah yeah there's a lot of interesting

1261
00:50:38,549 --> 00:50:37,360
stuff there um

1262
00:50:40,150 --> 00:50:38,559
[Music]

1263
00:50:41,750 --> 00:50:40,160
it's always interesting when we get an

1264
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,760
actual irish person come up with

1265
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:43,359
something tell you something like i had

1266
00:50:51,910 --> 00:50:48,710
i'm actually going to ireland soon in

1267
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,920
july i'm excited yeah yeah mike rick

1268
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,520
sucker has a tour

1269
00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:56,240
that uh it's a it's a haunted ireland

1270
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:58,880
tour and so it's going to be nine days

1271
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:01,760
going to the different castles and spike

1272
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:04,880
island prison and it's just i mean

1273
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:07,599
i can't wait

1274
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:08,880
huh

1275
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:11,760
um eventually wanted to ask if

1276
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,400
do you do any remote viewing

1277
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,640
oh man

1278
00:51:22,870 --> 00:51:17,920
i do

1279
00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:22,880
it's something that i have a lot of fun

1280
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,200
with normally i

1281
00:51:30,390 --> 00:51:27,359
i really only do it with my friends i go

1282
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:30,400
hey can i do this and and then let's see

1283
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:33,200
how accurate i am i actually

1284
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:36,880
so before i saw the entity that i called

1285
00:51:42,549 --> 00:51:41,109
i

1286
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,559
for fun

1287
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:45,280
with my sister

1288
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:50,079
remote viewed the montauk base

1289
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:53,680
and uh i gave that a shot and it was a

1290
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:55,599
it was a very interesting experience

1291
00:51:58,710 --> 00:51:57,280
because

1292
00:52:02,710 --> 00:51:58,720
i could

1293
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,720
the property

1294
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:04,480
and it was like it was fall and there

1295
00:52:08,390 --> 00:52:06,800
was leaves and i could feel them crunch

1296
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:08,400
under my feet

1297
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:10,160
and then

1298
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:14,079
all of a sudden like i found this this

1299
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:15,760
hole in the ground

1300
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:18,960
and i descended into it and then all of

1301
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:21,839
a sudden i was standing on this

1302
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,400
this great where there were stairs and

1303
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:26,079
it looked like it was a tunnel and it

1304
00:52:30,630 --> 00:52:28,720
was it was lit up so you knew that

1305
00:52:33,589 --> 00:52:30,640
people were still there

1306
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,599
but as i stood there to try to survey my

1307
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:36,240
surroundings my attention got pulled off

1308
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:38,240
to the left

1309
00:52:41,030 --> 00:52:39,839
and something out of the darkness

1310
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:41,040
something i

1311
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:42,720
like

1312
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:45,520
i i've seen monster movies and i you

1313
00:52:49,829 --> 00:52:47,520
know all kinds of stuff but you can't

1314
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:49,839
like i still couldn't piece it together

1315
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,160
it's not like it took you know alien

1316
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,480
versus predator and smushed it up with

1317
00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:57,520
godzilla you know or anything like that

1318
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:00,000
and it comes it just it just came at me

1319
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,119
like it was aware that i was there

1320
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:05,520
which just took me right out of it

1321
00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:08,880
and i have never

1322
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,280
i haven't done remote viewing unless

1323
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:13,040
it's with my friends since

1324
00:53:16,790 --> 00:53:14,400
wow

1325
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:16,800
i uh i was trained as a remote viewer

1326
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:18,000
and um

1327
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:18,800
oh

1328
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:20,800
i actually did an interview last this

1329
00:53:23,829 --> 00:53:21,680
week

1330
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:23,839
with lynn wallington about remote

1331
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,040
viewing

1332
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:27,440
and i had i hadn't talked about it i

1333
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:30,640
haven't talked about removing for years

1334
00:53:36,069 --> 00:53:33,040
right and um

1335
00:53:38,230 --> 00:53:36,079
but you know i do use it um

1336
00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:38,240
i i work with i've worked with a lot of

1337
00:53:43,510 --> 00:53:41,760
people using it in teams and such

1338
00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:43,520
but uh

1339
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:46,319
i use it on my cases

1340
00:53:50,470 --> 00:53:48,800
oh i'm just using my case and it it's

1341
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:50,480
it's very helpful of course me being

1342
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:51,839
intuitive

1343
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,000
uh that kind of interferes with some

1344
00:53:59,430 --> 00:53:56,640
some points sometimes and it can be

1345
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:59,440
annoying but um

1346
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:01,520
you know the one thing i have said i

1347
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:03,520
think anybody can do remote viewing i

1348
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,760
think anybody you oh yeah i think

1349
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:07,680
anybody can be a remote viewer if you do

1350
00:54:12,710 --> 00:54:09,040
the process

1351
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:12,720
and uh you stick with it and uh you know

1352
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:14,960
you get the right frame of mime about it

1353
00:54:19,829 --> 00:54:18,319
and uh just let yourself go along with

1354
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,839
it and um

1355
00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:22,079
i think more people would be

1356
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,119
surprised at what they can come up with

1357
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,359
oh i agree i think that we all have

1358
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,119
psychic abilities

1359
00:54:34,630 --> 00:54:31,680
and that they can be

1360
00:54:36,630 --> 00:54:34,640
learned and and we can develop them

1361
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:36,640
we just i mean it's it's our brain is a

1362
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:39,920
muscle just like the rest of our body

1363
00:54:45,510 --> 00:54:43,839
so i do i do agree with you there

1364
00:54:49,510 --> 00:54:45,520
yeah

1365
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,520
why don't you tell folks how they can

1366
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:51,440
well first of all tell folks what you're

1367
00:54:56,470 --> 00:54:52,799
going to be doing

1368
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:56,480
what you're up to um

1369
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,839
you know

1370
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:59,520
what you're going to you got to you're

1371
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:00,880
going to be working on you're working on

1372
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:02,160
another book

1373
00:55:05,670 --> 00:55:03,839
are you going to be at any conferences

1374
00:55:08,309 --> 00:55:05,680
is there anything that you want them to

1375
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:08,319
know and how to get in touch with you

1376
00:55:14,549 --> 00:55:11,599
sure so i mean i'm definitely excited to

1377
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,559
go to ireland in july and i will be

1378
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:16,880
posting all kinds of stuff from the trip

1379
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:18,799
there there's going to be a lot of

1380
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,280
investigation that are taking place

1381
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,760
especially uh during the overnight at

1382
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:25,920
spike island prison that's going to be

1383
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:26,960
um

1384
00:55:32,069 --> 00:55:29,760
fascinating i will definitely try my

1385
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:32,079
best to go live while i'm there

1386
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,880
i am i just signed my contract for my

1387
00:55:38,150 --> 00:55:36,000
second book

1388
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:38,160
so that is definitely kind of what i'm

1389
00:55:41,670 --> 00:55:39,920
doing when i'm not actively doing

1390
00:55:43,910 --> 00:55:41,680
interviews or

1391
00:55:46,230 --> 00:55:43,920
you know what have you so i'm definitely

1392
00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:46,240
writing that and then um to find my

1393
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,040
first book it's on amazon you can also

1394
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,680
message me on facebook under anceline

1395
00:55:57,670 --> 00:55:54,480
and i can get you a author signed copy

1396
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:57,680
uh let's see you can check out kpl radio

1397
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,799
it's kpnl-db.com

1398
00:56:03,430 --> 00:56:02,480
caravan bloor

1399
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:03,440
and

1400
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:07,440
as for like instagram facebook twitter

1401
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:10,160
same thing just type in kpl radio or the

1402
00:56:13,670 --> 00:56:12,079
caravan of lore and you'll find it all

1403
00:56:16,230 --> 00:56:13,680
down there

1404
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:16,240
uh someone by the name of paranormal

1405
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:19,119
heart says uh-huh

1406
00:56:23,510 --> 00:56:20,559
you're going to be releasing the book an

1407
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:23,520
audiobook you'll be wonderful narrating

1408
00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,400
uh

1409
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,119
i i want to um

1410
00:56:31,990 --> 00:56:29,280
we're still i have to get with the

1411
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:32,000
publisher uh in regards to making the

1412
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,520
audiobook

1413
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,000
but that is it will be me when it gets

1414
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,960
published it will be me reading it

1415
00:56:44,230 --> 00:56:41,040
free

1416
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:44,240
well like i said before if if you want

1417
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:46,799
to contact me about anything

1418
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,280
i'm more than willing to listen and you

1419
00:56:52,710 --> 00:56:51,200
know

1420
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:52,720
oh i would love that i would love to

1421
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:55,520
connect it's it's such a a new rabbit

1422
00:57:02,950 --> 00:56:58,880
hole for me and especially with the uh

1423
00:57:04,870 --> 00:57:02,960
with the hypnotic regression that i did

1424
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,880
you know i i went and i did that and i

1425
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:06,240
talked about it that night and i haven't

1426
00:57:10,549 --> 00:57:07,839
talked about it since

1427
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,559
you know i didn't really go into

1428
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:13,040
what i saw but in the next several days

1429
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:14,079
after

1430
00:57:18,630 --> 00:57:16,319
what i saw was confirmed by listening to

1431
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:18,640
other people's stories which you know

1432
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:22,240
there again um you know so

1433
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:23,520
it means a lot

1434
00:57:28,950 --> 00:57:26,720
okay feel free so um hey you have a good

1435
00:57:29,910 --> 00:57:28,960
weekend and uh i'll be talking to you

1436
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:29,920
soon

1437
00:57:40,789 --> 00:57:39,190
now well if you have an unexplained

1438
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:40,799
encounter of sighting

1439
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,280
feel free to contact me directly at lawn

1440
00:57:46,950 --> 00:57:45,359
stricker families of mantras dot com or

1441
00:57:47,990 --> 00:57:46,960
through the phantoms of monsters blog

1442
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:48,000
site

1443
00:57:51,910 --> 00:57:50,000
also if you um

1444
00:57:52,829 --> 00:57:51,920
if you'd like your encounter citing red

1445
00:57:56,150 --> 00:57:52,839
on the

1446
00:57:59,190 --> 00:57:56,160
show or placed on fans of monsters

1447
00:58:01,829 --> 00:57:59,200
forward to my email for consideration

1448
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:01,839
i want to again thank uh and celine for

1449
00:58:05,430 --> 00:58:03,680
joining me this evening

1450
00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:05,440
and thanks to each and all of you for

1451
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:07,839
watching and chatting and if you made a

1452
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,640
donation it's truly appreciated

1453
00:58:13,670 --> 00:58:12,480
your support is what makes all this

1454
00:58:17,109 --> 00:58:13,680
possible

1455
00:58:19,109 --> 00:58:17,119
uh please click the subscribe button and

1456
00:58:20,230 --> 00:58:19,119
also become a member of fans of monsters

1457
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:20,240
radio

1458
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:23,760
now next week abductee and author

1459
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:26,960
lisa o'hara will be joining us

1460
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:30,079
uh lisa experienced multiple encounters

1461
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:31,839
and abductions

1462
00:58:36,789 --> 00:58:34,799
during her life and she will talk about

1463
00:58:39,270 --> 00:58:36,799
how she fought back

1464
00:58:42,309 --> 00:58:39,280
so it should be a very interesting show

1465
00:59:25,109 --> 00:58:42,319
so until next week stay healthy and have

1466
00:59:43,730 --> 00:59:27,430
so